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28-04-2019, 08:56 PM #1
Aeration- is it possible to have too much?
Ok so have two airstones and they are creating a huge amount of bubbles - should they be on a timer or ok to leave on the whole time?
Cheers!!
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Nexus320
Cloverleaf GenesisII(5 bay)
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11 Koi
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28-04-2019, 09:09 PM #2
It is possible for the water to become super saturated with oxygen.
Warmer water holds less oxygen so more of a need with higher temperatures.
Numbers/size of fish using the oxygen??
If you have any falling water that will also be airating it.
If there's plants or algae more need for air overnight.
Beneficial to have air into filters.
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28-04-2019, 09:24 PM #3
Thanks!
Seven new koi in new pond. Already have air into nexus 320 as well.
Perhaps on timer for the middle part of the day?
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11 Koi
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28-04-2019, 11:08 PM #4
There's a few threads on here discussing this exact subject, worth having a search for, probably via Google as opposed to the search facility on this site.
Think the conclusion was yes, it is possible to have too much air to the extent that too much air can do more bad than good.
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29-04-2019, 09:25 AM #5
After a search a bit of reading I have decided to put the air pump on a timer - 3 hours a day during the hottest part of the day. Kind of makes sense to me based on the reading I have done!
Cheers all!
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Nexus320
Cloverleaf GenesisII(5 bay)
2x13,000lph pumps, 2xEvoAqua75wUV
11 Koi
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29-04-2019, 09:40 AM #6
Just to throw a spanner in the works, there is reduced oxygen at night time due to lack of photosynthesis.
I don't know enough about the subject to advise, but I ran through last year including the baking summer with no air, just a surface level return. Had no problems. That was 8 small to medium (32cm) koi in 7000 litres.
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29-04-2019, 07:17 PM #7
My thoughts are - every column of air bubbles that are rising up through the water if wide enough is an area of water where the fish can't swim as there is very little water to support their weight so yes if you basically turn your pond into a jacuzzi then that's too much aeration sure each column of air is adding to the surface area of the pond so it will support more fish or bigger fish but at the same time you are loosing volume of water so it's a case of working out how much aeration you require for your specific needs and going from there isn't it? If the oxygen levels are too low it will soon become obvious as the fish will be up at the surface gasping for air or hanging round the filter returns etc. Oxygen levels drop at night and in the heat so maybe once you have got the volume of aeration correct you could control your air pump with a thermostat and a timer so if it gets too hot it comes on and then at night it comes on and the rest of the time it's off but to make it simpler just leave the air pump on all the time?
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29-04-2019, 10:01 PM #8
I have an air pump running continuously. I have two stones in the pond, one at each end and one in the filter. The pond ones I throttle back to gentle bubbling most of the time and the filter one is full on. Fish are happy. I also have a line that air washes the EA media when I clean the filter.
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29-04-2019, 10:03 PM #9
Meant to add that I use a valve with 6 outlets, each of which has a tap. This gives full control.
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30-04-2019, 10:43 AM #10
One thing I wish i had done is bought self weighted air lines - have had to lower in rocks to pin down the lines!
Timer setup for 3 hours a day!10,118Gal 46,000l
Nexus320
Cloverleaf GenesisII(5 bay)
2x13,000lph pumps, 2xEvoAqua75wUV
11 Koi
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30-04-2019, 10:57 AM #11
wait until water warms up and go swimming to replace them lol,,,,andi
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30-04-2019, 11:35 AM #12
I bought weighted black air lines as the ones that float are unsightly. They are very good, but I still find that the bottom drain gradually sweeps everything towards it. I have fixed lumps of stone to the lines near the air outlets to try to counteract this. My pool is quite long and narrow, so I have air running continuously (not a torrent - just gentle aeration) at each end, and the central area is clear so we can see the fish. I might try the timer approach myself actually. Sounds sensible.
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30-04-2019, 04:57 PM #13
personally i hate looking at a column of bubbles, i stopped using airstones in the ponds about 8 years ago without any problems ive just been pumping a lot of water over a shower and mine are fine
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30-04-2019, 05:17 PM #14
Yeah am with you on that one asked the question on here the other month about it and toke them out so much nicer being able to see my fish without all that water disturbance . Fish seem more that happy . They didn't seem to like the amount of air I had going
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