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    anyone using this? has 1m higher head height with extra 500ltrs bit more powerful for less money.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jebao-TSP...mJA:rk:19:pf:0

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    This must be new out because when looking at them recently the range didn't go up to 20000lph.

    Can't find a chart anywhere showing what the variable speeds are and the associated wattage which is a bit of a pain.

    I believe most Jebao pumps invalidate warranty if you use them dry mounted, but most people still do without issue. They had a new pump coming out where dry mounting was permissable, it might actually be the TSP but can't remember for sure.

    Everyone who uses Jebao tend to highly recommend them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    This must be new out because when looking at them recently the range didn't go up to 20000lph.

    Can't find a chart anywhere showing what the variable speeds are and the associated wattage which is a bit of a pain.

    I believe most Jebao pumps invalidate warranty if you use them dry mounted, but most people still do without issue. They had a new pump coming out where dry mounting was permissable, it might actually be the TSP but can't remember for sure.

    Everyone who uses Jebao tend to highly recommend them.

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    ive notice that also, a lot use them and highly rate them.

    yer agree its a pain, isn't it odd though that this pump looks identical to pondxpert , aqua forte vario , aqua eco vario, bet their are others .. must be re badged . or are aqua forte just made by jebao . it doesn't say on the page about dry mounting.. shouldn't be though cause it looks like a dry pump...…

    it was only £149.99 just brought it...

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    I was recently going to change all my 1 1/2 pipework to 2 inch but after closer inspection of the 2 inch fitting for my uv (ea110) it would be pointless as inside the 2 inch fitting it's reduced to 1 1/2 so until I replace the uv or to find another solution its pointless changing the pipework.


    I understand this doesn't help with ops pump, but might help others when picking a uv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markini5 View Post
    ive notice that also, a lot use them and highly rate them.

    yer agree its a pain, isn't it odd though that this pump looks identical to pondxpert , aqua forte vario , aqua eco vario, bet their are others .. must be re badged . or are aqua forte just made by jebao . it doesn't say on the page about dry mounting.. shouldn't be though cause it looks like a dry pump...…

    it was only £149.99 just brought it...
    looked online its a wet or dry mounted pump, must be a new version that you mentioned..
    New series of controlled pumps for a very interesting price!
    The Jebao TSM Vario pumps are suitable for outdoor use and can be installed both wet and dry.
    With the remote controller, you can control the flow (and thus power) of 30% to 100%.
    Also, the controller can turn on / off the pump (Pause). Equipped with synchronous motor and wear-resistant ceramic shaft. Switches off automatically when there is no water in the rotor. When blockage of the impeller, the pump will turn into a "lock" position, which consumes no power and wait until the blockage is removed again. This prevents the burning of the motor. 2 year warranty.
    • Adjustable / Variable
    • Very energy efficient pumps with innovative electronics.
    • Low-noise operation. Suitable for fresh and salt water.
    • No copper parts.
    • Equipped with durable ceramic shaft.
    • When blockage of the impeller, the pump will turn into a "lock" position, which consumes no power and wait until the blockage is removed again. This prevents the burning of the motor.


    Jebao Vario models:

    Type Item no. watt Liters / h Opv.h Entrance Exit
    TSP-10000 Vario 15-85 4-9m³ / h 5.0 mtr 2 " 2 "
    TSP-20000 Vario 34-187 9-20m³ / h 7.0 mtr 2 " 2 "
    TSP-30000 Vario 52-300 12-24m³ / h 8.0 mtr 2 " 2 "

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    Does look very attractive with those figures - suggesting just 34 watts at 9000 lph, compared to the Superfish pump's 64 watts at 11,000 lph.

    I have definitely read something before along the lines of Jebao producing pumps for various manufacturers and "if it looks like a Jebao it is a Jebao".

    I found this chart for the 20,000 model. Not sure if its accurate or just totally made up, but might be helpful nonetheless:

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    EDIT: Just found this completely different chart somewhere else so who knows which is accurate:

    Jebao2.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Does look very attractive with those figures - suggesting just 34 watts at 9000 lph, compared to the Superfish pump's 64 watts at 11,000 lph.

    I have definitely read something before along the lines of Jebao producing pumps for various manufacturers and "if it looks like a Jebao it is a Jebao".

    I found this chart for the 20,000 model. Not sure if its accurate or just totally made up, but might be helpful nonetheless:

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    think that one is way off. should look like this version in the link from jebao
    they have replaced the 20000 is a new version 22000s cant find it to buy in uk.. and says new product in jebao main selection page https://www.jebao.com/displayproduct...56786475042176

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    Quote Originally Posted by markini5 View Post
    think that one is way off. should look like this version in the link from jebao
    they have replaced the 20000 is a new version 22000s cant find it to buy in uk.. and says new product in jebao main selection page https://www.jebao.com/displayproduct...56786475042176
    It really is a minefield because they are using that same chart on at least 3 entirely different pumps - Surely there would be some difference between them.

    Still tempted to buy one mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Does look very attractive with those figures - suggesting just 34 watts at 9000 lph, compared to the Superfish pump's 64 watts at 11,000 lph.

    I have definitely read something before along the lines of Jebao producing pumps for various manufacturers and "if it looks like a Jebao it is a Jebao".

    I found this chart for the 20,000 model. Not sure if its accurate or just totally made up, but might be helpful nonetheless:

    Capture.jpg


    EDIT: Just found this completely different chart somewhere else so who knows which is accurate:

    Jebao2.jpg
    your second 1 looks spot on , for the money its a bargain.
    will see how it compares to what ive got now when it turns up
    just altered my pipework so its no higher than the filter . approx. 50cm lower.
    if then by this graph im only looking at around max 12,000 lph based on 2m height which includes internal bead pressure.

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    i have just come across actual performance graph of the superfish eco e 10,000 and 20,000 in these manufacturers spec
    it performs way below what I would of hoped for 5700lph at 2m H 10k pump and 9,000lph for 20k pump

    on paper the Jebao 20k is 4,000lph more at 2m H

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    Good find.

    So despite the slightly higher wattage it looks like you are getting much more bang for buck from the Jebao pump when you bring head height into the equation, and on top of that its £50 cheaper which will cover the first year's electric by itself.

    Also, as its infinitely adjustable you might be able to go for the 30000 model and run it at on a lower setting knowing your not stressing it and there's plenty of oomph for future upgrades/filter additions, although it is quite a price jump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS2OOO View Post
    Good find.

    So despite the slightly higher wattage it looks like you are getting much more bang for buck from the Jebao pump when you bring head height into the equation, and on top of that its £50 cheaper which will cover the first year's electric by itself.

    Also, as its infinitely adjustable you might be able to go for the 30000 model and run it at on a lower setting knowing your not stressing it and there's plenty of oomph for future upgrades/filter additions, although it is quite a price jump.
    that's true, I couldn't find the 30k pump for under £299 which is twice the price..
    it will be interesting to see what setting and watts needed to visibly produce a greater flow than this 20k superfish.. at 150w

    due for delivery tomorrow.

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    Please let me know how you get on as I'll be in the market for either the Superfish or the Jebao next Month.

    My only issue is that I concreted 1.5" outlet/return pipe under a patio, but I'd still run through that anyway. My head height is under a metre.

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    Jeboa 20k pump turned up.
    on inspection build quality appears poor , back plate/cover which doesnt cover anything as its sealed fell off, handle then fell off as the back cover holds it in place.. these are just push fit parts not clicked in or secure so hold with 2 hands.

    manual is typical chinese a few small pages with not much useful info.

    on installation i noticed the power cord for the pump is thicker than the superfish.
    it comes with 2 hose tails a bonus if you use them - i dont.

    i used silicone sealant on the threads then taped up with electrical tape before flexi rubber bends are clamped on. always leak proof first time.
    cable is approx. 10m from pump to controller, has a one way plug with a thread locking screw to secure both end of cables.
    the pump starts automatically and adjusts it power level while trying to pump water, it wouldn't start and was making an horrid screeching noise I had to manually pump the flexi boots to get the pump going
    once working it was noticeably quieter than the superfish 20k and immediately notice a huge increase in water flow.

    the controller button dont press in or make clicking noise, makes you think they dont do anything useful . but actually work fine.
    heat sink on rear so make sure air flow is not restricted and not put in an enclosed space.

    power range according to controller is different from claims manufacturer

    controller say 20w - 195w when you actually use the flow settings...
    I do very much like how you can adjust the flow in 1% increments up/down in percentage of flow, then the controller changes display to show power consumption depending on setting you made.
    watts is displayed and fluctuates every few seconds

    overall the performance of the pump is what counts and so far very impressed
    flow increase is fairly linear delivery while adjusting power settings.
    my weir has dropped a lot more at least an inch lower, it can go lower but im testing this pump on its max setting 20k and not getting any more flow due to my systems restrictions in pipe size/head height ect.

    flow at around 90watts appears equal to the superfish 20k at its top power as I marked the weir how far it dropped to work this out. above 90watts it dropped . so is cheaper to run.

    flow in my pond is now much greater and will be shown later, and my skimmer is working very well now - visible draw of surface debris flowing towards the skimmer.
    As well as the main issue of floor debris is now sucked in by the bottom drain.

    will put up a video this afternoon.
    but overall very happy with this choice, will see how it works in the long term.. but for £149.99 delivered next day I can not complain..

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    Great to hear. Let us know how you get on.

    i was the same when mine arrived. A little worried because all the bits felt like cheap tacky plastic but once I connected the pump and everything got going I was very impressed with the flow rate and the power consumption.

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    latest video, shows greater water flow , weir has lowered more - not all the way it can go..
    surface water is clearing up so difficult to show anything meaningful .

    even at its lowest setting its producing a decent flow at around 20w according to controller .

    heat sink does get warm,id really urge caution on where you locate this. as its a transformer .

    seems good value for money and so far id highly recommend this over superfish pumps.. and this is coming from someone that's now had both..

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    Thanks for the comprehensive write up, exactly the info that I'd like to know.

    Looks brilliant mate, I'm pleased everything is now sorted..... just waiting for the refund on the Superfish I guess!

    Looking forward to getting one of these myself now, after November pay day!

    Thanks again.

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    [QUOTE=RS2OOO;280490]Thanks for the comprehensive write up, exactly the info that I'd like to know.

    Looks brilliant mate, I'm pleased everything is now sorted..... just waiting for the refund on the Superfish I guess!

    Looking forward to getting one of these myself now, after November pay day!

    Thanks Mate, its working a treat, ive turn down the flow running at F90% approx. 147w still way more flow than superfish 20k

    ive noticed on the controller for unknown reasons its got 1 higher output after F100 and power consumed jumps from 179w to 195w and higher flow, you can hear a high pitch noise as motor speeds up.. no idea why it has an higher setting above highest setting..

    still stuck with superfish pump.. seller being an arse.. not sorted my return postage label yet via ebay.. as he is responsible for return costs and sorting label .. ive asked and asked but he's in no rush to resolve anything since Thursday now ebay steps in on 27th but they will give him more time to sort return before giving a refund... and will have to sell this one as spares or repairs..

    I wont buy from him again that's for sure.

    only thing im not sure on is does this need de-scaling every other month... no mention of it other than monthly cleaning ie making sure rotor is not blocked..

    glad my dilemma helped you in some way..

 

 
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