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    Treating trichodina with m and f

    I treated yesterday for trichodina with malachite and formalin how long does it take to work I’ve never had trichodina before I’m going to rescrape in a few days see if it’s worked if it ain’t can I use pp



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    Never used fmg before. But I would of tried fluke solve 1st as this is capable of ridding tric. If this failed I would most likely use pp.

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    So if the m and f ain’t worked how long do I wait before re dosing with fluke solve

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    I'm not really sure, but probs about 2 weeks as it might take a while to get out of your water.

    If you have used it before and are sure about your pond size pp will be a much cheaper option. Just make sure you get the amount right and have extra air going in as it's not forgiving.

    I would personally try fs 1st though as pp is harsh for you koi.

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    Hi thanx that’s why I’ve used the m and f 1st as I’ve never used pp before never had trichodina before I’m shocked to find them I’ve got sum k1 bio chamber as filters ponds looks pretty clean apart from dead algae on pond walls which does get clogged on brushes under screen on Queni drum but I’ve been hosing this out and down chute twice a week if there still there next week can I use fluke solve

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    I don't know for sure so wouldn't like to say. But I do know that the owner of the product fs is very knowledgeable and will help answer your questions. She's called Fiona if I remember correctly.

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    I’ve only treated Tric with M&F, three courses, five days apart, works for me.

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    Treating costia

    Thanx I thought one dose of m and f was supposed to the trick but il try what you suggest if no luck will try the fluke splve so if you treat on days 1 and 7 which leaves 5 clear days between treatments
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    Hiya

    PP is the recognised most effective treatment for Tric, other remedies may work to varying degrees but in using them you are not really targeting the cure against the problem very efficiently and will tend to knock the fish back more than is needed.

    The dose for PP does need to be correct, but that goes with other treatments - one point of caution I would throw in ...with current temps and low pond Oxygen levels adding any chemicals creates an additional risk and the amount of additional aeration required cannot be understated.

    If you have any Sturgeon or Orfe then these would need to be removed from the pond whilst threating with PP.

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    Treating trichodina with m&f

    Quote Originally Posted by Davej View Post
    Hiya

    PP is the recognised most effective treatment for Tric, other remedies may work to varying degrees but in using them you are not really targeting the cure against the problem very efficiently and will tend to knock the fish back more than is needed.

    The dose for PP does need to be correct, but that goes with other treatments - one point of caution I would throw in ...with current temps and low pond Oxygen levels adding any chemicals creates an additional risk and the amount of additional aeration required cannot be understated.

    If you have any Sturgeon or Orfe then these would need to be removed from the pond whilst threating with PP.
    I’ve put Mandf in il see how it goes they do look a little brighter today I honestly don’t know where they’ve come from ponds fibreglassed and filtered by queni drum and k1 bio chamber only dirt that accumulates is on brushes in drum which I spray off regularly as I did treat for blankeyweed and the weed and black sludge was trapped on brushes

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    wasting your time with fmg for tric

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyTony View Post
    wasting your time with fmg for tric
    I was told it would work at the correct dose and I was going by what I’d read in Duncan’s book that mandf is also useful at treating it only time will tell now that be put it in if not il have to resort to treating again with pp which I wish I’d waited and done in first place but you live and learn

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    TreTing trichodina with m and f

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyTony View Post
    wasting your time with fmg for tric
    I’ve just spoken to Duncan griffiths malachite and formalin will control trichodina but doesn’t totally eradicate them but he said neither will pp

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    Intresting dave . Only used pp twice in 10yrs which was for tric. Convinced flukesolve keeps the numbers down as fluke is always my prime beastie every year and tric has been non existant

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    Is flukesolve just the same ingredients as Duncan griffiths pure prazi just I have some of this in medication cupboard and may try if trichodina is still there in large numbers when I rescrape I’ve never ever treated for trichodina and never used pp my friend used it many years ago for trichodina and he ended up losing four fish and he didn’t administer the treatment himself a koi dealer did it for him
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    if you got tric in high numbers id use pp personally as it will get rid almost instantly . just my opinion

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    Treating trichodina with m&f

    Quote Originally Posted by TinyTony View Post
    if you got tric in high numbers id use pp personally as it will get rid almost instantly . just my opinion
    I didn’t see loads on scrape there was 3 spinning around on slide thanx everyone for the replies

 

 

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