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06-03-2018, 11:14 AM #1
Grow on pond
Morning all can any one please tell what sort of temp a grow on tank should be for best results . Thanks
Johnathan
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Johnathan
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06-03-2018, 02:17 PM #2
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06-03-2018, 02:31 PM #3
i have just grown some fish in my grow on. same as john i grew at 22c during the winter. plus food was same high protein. jap food now dropped to 14c ready for spring to trans fare to main pond. when the weather warms up.
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06-03-2018, 06:39 PM #4
Champion cheers . Should have had you both to build my pond both yous answered every question I've had . Cheers
Johnathan
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06-03-2018, 07:03 PM #5
always have mine at 23.5 c and ive seen some great growth.
tbh though i think water quality is more important, than wether the water temp is 22c or 24 c or what ever.
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06-03-2018, 09:19 PM #6John
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06-03-2018, 09:24 PM #7
Anyway Johnathan you havnt built your main pond yet never mind a grow on,or am i missing something or just burbling on as usual.
John
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06-03-2018, 09:30 PM #8
Had a temp pond fence posts 8ft by 8ft by 2ft deep that I had left off a few jobs with a chag and a couple others that I havnt learnt yet . I moved and rebuilt them in brick shed november to make room for pond mrk 3 so used that to grow on ready for spring
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06-03-2018, 09:42 PM #9
With you now Johnathan looks like a decent size for a grow on and the Chag will do well in a bit of heat,increase it gently and i wouldnt really aim for 22 plus deg now as 18 to 20 would be good but that is up to you.
I have fed cooked mussels in the chill isle in Asda and they go bonkers for them once used to them plenty of protein as well.John
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06-03-2018, 09:55 PM #10
Yeah I haven't tried mussels yet but I'll be out tomorrow for some the chag is the wifes and it's the greedyest thing I've ever know she will have your arm fingers any thing but really loves prawns . I've got it at 19 now so happy you said that
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07-03-2018, 09:01 AM #11
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07-03-2018, 09:08 AM #12
Might not be the most colourful but they are a beautiful koi she's like a dog comes and sits in your hand for a cuddle ha . What summer food are people feeding and how often . I know a lot of people have auto feeders feeding 10 times a day but I like the personal touch with mine
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07-03-2018, 09:22 AM #13
i myself feed queni premium koi growth pellets' with another mix. plus your queni shrimp. then treats such as sweetcorn crab sticks lettuce. white bread. mine don t like brown bread. muscles some times as a special treat
honey on the bread. cheerios. sugar puffs. they get better fed then me ha ha. 4 x times a day. when peak summer at night as well. i always hand feed
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07-03-2018, 09:24 AM #14
Really I never know you could feed them all that gear like I know my chag loves Brussel sprouts . Peas carrot . Sunday's lunch ha
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07-03-2018, 09:25 AM #15
Summer months of feeding depends on what your filters can handle so it's a matter of trial and error but a little at a time and testing your water quality regularly I'm just brought a auto feeder this year as my original one is intermittent ( she keeps forgetting lol )
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07-03-2018, 10:54 AM #16
If i had nt of retired of the oil rigs. And still worked away. 3weeks away. I would have been on auto feeder. But i am home for good now.
So i have the time. My wife is a very busy woman. Running her cafe. 5 till 5. So she would nt have the time.
When there was a problem. Lee. Came around to sort it for me. And help out.
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07-03-2018, 11:26 AM #17
They have they place that's for sure just not on my pond at the minute life's and things change so never say never but not yet . Koi don't shout if you don't cook it right or for get to wash the dishes
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07-03-2018, 11:44 AM #18
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Hi, i found with my grow ons that anywhere from 20-24°c was pretty much an even area in terms of growth. Was no difference at 25°c other than more leccy used and below 18°c they still ate like sharks but not like they did at 22 ha ha. Kept mine at 23°c mainly but i also mimic summer too so have lights on timer to give them 16hrs of light etc.. small feeds very often i found best. At peak i was feeding every hour. (Me and auto feeder between depending on life circumstances etc..) had some astonishing growth and loved every minuite if doing it. Following what fred said above you will be amazed what carp will eat not everythings that good for them but most doesnt hurt em. Im a big fan of mussels, cockles, prawns, shrimp, silkworm pupae but they can trash the water very quickly so i only feed them in moderation. Main bulk of the diet was a decent quality pellet food floating and sinking. Tend to have a mix to be honest. QK jap and ultimate, QK silkworm pellet, saki multi, growth, colour and also had vitallis going in last year. If im honest and people may disagree but do not waste your money on vitallis, i saw no benefit over other cheaper dried pellet foods.
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07-03-2018, 06:01 PM #19
The secret to feed any koi is little and often in my book and as often as you like,but dont leave any food lying round in the water.
The Chag is the beast of the pond,i have two gin rin chag in the pond and a few sora goi in the grow on so i have to pick out what i want to keep and the rest are going.
I dont use an auto feeder as i am home all day and i enjoy feeding them anyway.John
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07-03-2018, 06:31 PM #20
lol, speaking of chags, my biggest is 76 cm, then i have 2 marudo chags, 1 at about 70 cm, the other at about 62, then 2 hirasawa chags, 1 at about 65 cm, the other out of my grow on is now about 43cm,
also have a ginrin soragoi at about 43cm, all ladies too i think !.........i love them but theyre eating my wallet dry
My hirasawa that's now at 65 cm was 43cm last april and the weight its put on is absolutely incredible, it must be 3 or 4 times the weight it was, in under 11 months.
Got half a dozen Yamazaki Karashigoi coming in April too, just tiddlers to grow on, ill keep the nicest big girl and sell the rest.
As you can tell, im a sucker for these big single colour varieties.
Back on topic..........I feed every hour once water temps are up around 22c.
Running heater at low temp?
Covering the pond with polycarb should be enough to stop water temps dipping below 6C for the most...