Welcome to Koi Forum. Is this your first visit? Register
Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 65

Thread: billy no mates

  1. #1

    billy no mates

    Billy no mates because im the only one growing and showing, so its not a competition but it seemed like a good place for my thread because i will grow them and i will show you them ,lol.
    So it my birthday today and these are my presents....6 little Karashigoi, half doitsu, half normal, they're really nice, im really happy with them. From Queni koi they are Yamazaki, im determined to get one these little fish to jumbo size.
    My plan is that, i will give them 2 growing seasons in my indoor grow on pond on growth food at 24c, i hope after a year they will be 40-45 cm and comfortably over 60 cm at 2 years, then they will go in my pond at the start of the 3rd season, to hopefully go on to reach ginormous proportions ...just need some of them to be girls.
    Anyway wish me luck ,its a long term project, they are currently between 12 and 16cm.

    IMG_2634.jpgIMG_2636.jpg

    David



  2. Thanks Ajm, AdamKoi78, Feline, Liam77, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  3. #2
    Senior Member Rank = Supreme Champion Ajm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Durham
    Posts
    11,220
    Thanks / Likes
    21136
    Good look mate can't wait to see how you get on gotta be a monster there in the making

    Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
    Freddyboy the legend

    "we are water keepers first"

    Johnathan

  4. Thanks familyman, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  5. #3
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Mature Champion AdamKoi78's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    2,212
    Thanks / Likes
    1563
    Happy birthday David. Those karashigoi will be fun to watch grow. You know I bought three last July at roughly 16cm. They are fearless when it comes to feeding as they have been left to get on with it. No special treatment give in our house��. I haven't had them in a bowl since I bought them but they must be high 30's at the very least.

    Mine were from Marudo via absolute koi.



    I'll try and get some pictures and a measure for a reference to compare yours as they grow. Keep the pictures coming mate.
    Last edited by AdamKoi78; 03-04-2018 at 02:42 PM.

  6. Thanks familyman, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  7. #4
    Cheers Adam, yeah yours are well into the 40's now, they've done well.
    Imo all koi will reach 60 cm, my very first koi are reaching 60 cm now, and they didn't half get put through the mire, as i simply ddint know any better, they persevered with inadequate, infact completely unsuitable filters, always had ammonia and nitrite, no water changes, junk food, i must have really stumped their growth but as i say they are getting to 60 cm now, so surely a karashigoi with hopefully a few good years start to life will make a good sized fish, although ultimately it depends on genetics.
    All mine look the same in the picture but actually up close there are some subtle differences in colour, scales, eye colour, some have red eyes which is nice

  8. Thanks AdamKoi78, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  9. #5
    little update on these karashigoi, seeing as I didn't have many fish in my grow on I decided to put them in my pond.
    So here they are as of today ranging from about 25 cm for the smallest up to 28 cm for the largest, up from 12 - 16 cm in 8-9 weeks, so easy growing 1 cm a week, long may that continue!

    IMG_2901.jpgIMG_2902.jpg

  10. Thanks Ajm, AdamKoi78, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  11. #6
    heres an ochiba i put in my grow on last year , it was really tiny, not even 10 cm...Its Female and Japanese, big frame but regretfully slightly bent spine....its free to a very good home, 45 cm plus now.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  12. Thanks AdamKoi78 Thanked / Liked this Post
  13. #7
    ha ha , you got to love karashigoi and the like, they look like minnows at the side of some of my big girls ….. but they don't give a damn come feeding time, one was sucking on my big chags eyeball, I reckon she thought it was a parasite

  14. Thanks Ajm, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  15. #8
    crikey, you wouldnt believe these are the same fish when you see them , ill post more pics at the end of the growing season.

  16. #9
    Moderator Rank = Supreme Champion Feline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Somerset
    Posts
    6,653
    Thanks / Likes
    5635
    Ah nice, I also recently got a doitsu karashigoi (from Cuttlebrook). I will dig out a picture and show you mine as well

  17. Thanks familyman Thanked / Liked this Post
  18. #10
    Moderator Rank = Supreme Champion Feline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Somerset
    Posts
    6,653
    Thanks / Likes
    5635
    Here is my not-a-grow-and-show doitsu karashigoi:
    Bought from Cuttlebrook (2017 spawning) in June this year, 25cm
    We have called him/her Anubis

    IMG_4874 by Lara Day, on Flickr

  19. Thanks familyman, Liam77, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  20. #11
    hah, I missed that Feline, nice fish.

    Im forced in to an update really, as I had to do a little maintenance to one of these 6 little karashigoi, or not so little anymore.
    This is my favourite 1 of the 6 and it had caught a small pec fin wound in the feeding frenzy, so I caught it up to trim the damaged bit off, treat and seal it.

    Its 40 cm bang on, so from April 3 rd to now is about 20 weeks I think, and even if it was originally the biggest at 16 cm, its still going at comfortably over 1cm a week.
    I plan to keep this growing season going as long as possible to maximise 1st year growth, every cm I can get on them this year is one less to waste time on next year, lol.
    Usually i can keep the pond at good growth temps till November, so ive got another 8 or 9 weeks, ill be really happy at anything 45 cm plus in the first season.

    Of course next year they will slow down a lot, In my experience good growth in season 2 is about 50 percent (in terms of length) of the 1st season, but of course body mass probably quadruples to achieve that, so all of a sudden lots of food is required.

    David
    Attached Images Attached Images

  21. Thanks AdamKoi78, Liam77, lee63, Feline, RS2OOO Thanked / Liked this Post
  22. #12
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Grand Champion lee63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    East riding of yorkshire
    Posts
    3,881
    Thanks / Likes
    3865
    Looking really good them david billy no mates


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Its always a work in progress

  23. Thanks familyman, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  24. #13
    wish i could heat my pond to good growth temps through winter, I reckon I could have these fish comfortably over 50 cm, come april next year,. that would be a year exactly since I got them at 12-16 cm, theyre growing like tomato plants in a green house,lol

  25. Thanks AdamKoi78, freddyboy Thanked / Liked this Post
  26. #14
    I brought this Mukashi from Mike Snaden / Yume koi yesterday, its female, 36 cm and from Matsue.

    What a great bloke he is, he spent an hour with me, answering all my amateur questions that I know hes heard a million times before, and he didn't even look bored, lol. It was very interesting and very valuable time for me, and considering it was a 6 hour round trip thats saying something.

    Mike isn't just interested in an attractive fish, for him it has to have real jumbo potential as well, or it just doesn't cut the mustard, so he only selects fish that meet this very strict criteria.

    He said if this little mukashi doesn't sail past 90-95 cm he would be very surprised...….mmmmm no pressure then .
    Attached Images Attached Images

  27. Thanks AdamKoi78, Feline, john1, lee63, freddyboy, keithatrax, RS2OOO Thanked / Liked this Post
  28. #15
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Mature Champion AdamKoi78's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    2,212
    Thanks / Likes
    1563
    Quote Originally Posted by familyman View Post
    I brought this Mukashi from Mike Snaden / Yume koi yesterday, its female, 36 cm and from Matsue.

    What a great bloke he is, he spent an hour with me, answering all my amateur questions that I know hes heard a million times before, and he didn't even look bored, lol. It was very interesting and very valuable time for me, and considering it was a 6 hour round trip thats saying something.

    Mike isn't just interested in an attractive fish, for him it has to have real jumbo potential as well, or it just doesn't cut the mustard, so he only selects fish that meet this very strict criteria.

    He said if this little mukashi doesn't sail past 90-95 cm he would be very surprised...….mmmmm no pressure then .
    Great stuff David I know you have been after one for ages.

  29. Thanks familyman Thanked / Liked this Post
  30. #16
    Moderator Rank = Supreme Champion Feline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Somerset
    Posts
    6,653
    Thanks / Likes
    5635
    Quote Originally Posted by familyman View Post
    I brought this Mukashi from Mike Snaden / Yume koi yesterday, its female, 36 cm and from Matsue.

    What a great bloke he is, he spent an hour with me, answering all my amateur questions that I know hes heard a million times before, and he didn't even look bored, lol. It was very interesting and very valuable time for me, and considering it was a 6 hour round trip thats saying something.

    Mike isn't just interested in an attractive fish, for him it has to have real jumbo potential as well, or it just doesn't cut the mustard, so he only selects fish that meet this very strict criteria.

    He said if this little mukashi doesn't sail past 90-95 cm he would be very surprised...….mmmmm no pressure then .
    Wow that does look like a lovely fish!
    I am planning on buying a fish from Mike in the spring. Not sure which variety yet though. Possibly a Matsue kohaku. Im very lucky I only live a few miles from Yume

  31. Thanks familyman Thanked / Liked this Post
  32. #17
    thanks, it Is attractive isnt it, I kind of thought of them as just big ogons that weren't clean enough to be called purachinas, lol, but actually they are quite beautiful.

    Thanks to Dave J for putting me on to these.

  33. Thanks lee63 Thanked / Liked this Post
  34. #18
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Supreme Champion john1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    N.Wales.
    Posts
    8,700
    Thanks / Likes
    15243
    Really nice fish David,i have heard a lot about Mike being such a great bloke so i am not too surprised to hear you say the same maybe one day i will make the journey,long one for you David.
    John

  35. Thanks familyman, lee63 Thanked / Liked this Post
  36. #19
    Extreme Koi Member Rank = Grand Champion lee63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    East riding of yorkshire
    Posts
    3,881
    Thanks / Likes
    3865
    Love it david billy no mates mukashi are one of those variety that are reknowned for getting to whale sizes billy no mates best of luck bud


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Its always a work in progress

  37. Thanks freddyboy, familyman Thanked / Liked this Post
  38. #20
    Moderator Rank = Supreme Champion Feline's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Somerset
    Posts
    6,653
    Thanks / Likes
    5635
    Ive got a new Mukashi from Adam Byers Shooting Stars event.
    This fish is seriously tiny at the moment as from this summers spawning- so it cant go in the pond yet. I have it in an aquarium in my living room for now.
    12cm and a seriously blingy little fish

    Mandy by Lara Day, on Flickr

  39. Thanks freddyboy, familyman, keithatrax, lee63 Thanked / Liked this Post
 

 
Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:49 PM. Online Koi Mag Forum
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3
Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.

vBulletin Improved By vBFoster® (Lite Version), © UltimateScheme, Ltd.