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    Ladies in Waiting

    Separated these two from the rest of the crew last week.

    They were a tad unimpressed, particularly the Tancho but have settled down dancing round their handbags in the confines of the growing on tank.

    Just now a question of timing before introducing each to eligible suitors..

    [youtube]W3136y15Vk0[/youtube]

    Dave



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    got any pics/vid of the males Dave? good luck.

    went to mick prestons yesterday for koi club and we put the males in with his females in his mud pond. was really interesting, i don't have the space (or the females) and so interested to find out more.

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biogeny View Post
    got any pics/vid of the males Dave? good luck.

    went to mick prestons yesterday for koi club and we put the males in with his females in his mud pond. was really interesting, i don't have the space (or the females) and so interested to find out more.

    good luck
    Yes Mick has pushed last years fry on real well..

    Mine will be rather less natural in terms of raising as I'm not allowed a mud pond or polytunnel so have to cope with whats available...

    Male - Humm --haven't seen the primary male in the flesh .... Takigawa and around 63cm..

    There are a few options in the pond at the moment but this one will be an ideal match..

    Tosai pic below ; shows just a tad of promise at that age....


    Dave

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    yep, looks very promising at tosai-skin looks lovely.

    good luck and keep us updated please.

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    A couple of beauties as ever Dave, hope they deliver what you want
    1630 Gallon raised pond
    4" 'Avenue' bottom drain
    Estro sieve
    Econobead EB60 bead filter
    Sequence 18000 pump, 6000 pump on skimmer line
    Elecro 2kW in-line heater
    Evolution Aqua 70 air pump
    Standard wall skimmer
    Hozelock Vorton 55watt UV
    and some nice koi

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    what sort of number of fry do you keep 1st cull 2nd 3rd etc??
    What do you do with the extra koi on your later culls ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcvp View Post
    what sort of number of fry do you keep 1st cull 2nd 3rd etc??
    What do you do with the extra koi on your later culls ?
    First hurdles are the ladies being cooperative, then getting fertilisation and then a reasonable hatch rate ...

    3 big jumps..

    Dave

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    Hope you will be documenting the whole process, id love to do it one day.
    If your looking to move any on at any point

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    Dave what size are those lovely females and what size is your growing on tank?
    I only ask as i want to make a proper growing/quarrantine tank as at the moment I'm using a 200g vat for quarantine. Also what filtration do have on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi View Post
    Dave what size are those lovely females and what size is your growing on tank?
    I only ask as i want to make a proper growing/quarrantine tank as at the moment I'm using a 200g vat for quarantine. Also what filtration do have on it?
    Hiya

    They are both at 80cm..

    Tank is just over 1000 gallons.

    Simple ProfiDrum , 4 tier bakki Shower, 80kg BHM, turning over every 12 minutes..

    Dave

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    Hi Dave,
    will you spawn them in your tank or a show vat? The tancho looks ready from her size, are the offspring going in the grow, good luck with it all, just goes to show from micks that it possible to get some good/decent koi.

    jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAY76 View Post
    Hi Dave,
    will you spawn them in your tank or a show vat? The tancho looks ready from her size, are the offspring going in the grow, good luck with it all, just goes to show from micks that it possible to get some good/decent koi.

    jason
    Tancho will be first set, I have an Aquosis vat set up recirculating water from the main pond..

    Brushes from this will go into a 300 gallon tank in the shed. I can recirculate water from this into the tank the girls are currently in so I get the benefit of the shower.

    The Kohaku will be second and will be spawned in the inside tank.

    The brushes will go into 4x2x3 nets for hatching out and I will be turning the flow down a fair amount and have made up diffused .5mm mesh grids for the Drains etc.. to avoid escapees..

    Well thats the plan..... at the moment..

    Dave

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    Hi,

    it all sounds good fun, and alot of work lets hope both koi come out ok after the spawning.

    Any plans on what you are doing with the baby koi.? Would be good to get one to the magic 80cm , that would be a achievement more so if its good quality.
    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAY76 View Post
    Hi,

    it all sounds good fun, and alot of work lets hope both koi come out ok after the spawning.

    Any plans on what you are doing with the baby koi.? Would be good to get one to the magic 80cm , that would be a achievement more so if its good quality.
    Jason
    Reasonable quality would more than suffice for me Jason.. But that is a long long down the track - the list of what could go wrong is far to long atm.

    Dave

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    Looking forward to see how you get on , and weather the koi produced are of any standard worth keeping long term, hard bit must be the culling to keep the numbers down and give the others the chance to grow.

    jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAY76 View Post
    Looking forward to see how you get on , and weather the koi produced are of any standard worth keeping long term, hard bit must be the culling to keep the numbers down and give the others the chance to grow.

    jason
    Yes Jason cull isn't easy, cannot hide from the fact that it is a hard fact of life that you have to accept is necessary if you put a set together - If you don't then nature does it for you.

    Dave

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    Hi ,

    are the two girls in the grow on so that you can feed them more to help produce more eggs?

    And jumping off the subject does your grow on pond have better background levels of amm/nitrite with it being turned over 5 times a hour.

    jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAY76 View Post
    Hi ,

    are the two girls in the grow on so that you can feed them more to help produce more eggs?

    And jumping off the subject does your grow on pond have better background levels of amm/nitrite with it being turned over 5 times a hour.

    jason
    They are in there solely to prevent accidents and hopefully give me a measure of control, they would be a lot happier and probably feeding more if they were where they belong - in the main pond...

    Grow on parameters - all depends on how hard it is pushed Jason, at the moment with just the two in there its only ticking over. 50 Tosai at 30cm in April, being fed at will is a more realistic load and even then I am looking to top out at Total Ammonia sub .05 and Nitrite .08 if I run skinny KH.

    Dave

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    Cheers for the info on parameters, my readings are very similar to yours so thats good enough for me.
    good luck with the spawning and look forward to seeing some baby koi fingers crossed

    jason

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    New male came East down the M4 this morning..

    He is going to have his work cut out over the next week or so.. But for sure if pec size were a sign of virility then this little chap will be ideal..

    [youtube]So-IfQDk4jk&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

    Dave

 

 
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