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    Bare root plants

    Am wanting to make a long planter to go down the back wall of my pond and make it a water return . So long box inlet one end outlet other end filter grate slightly rised from bottom . Is there any plants that I could cable tie to the grate and that are ok without soil . Feel I need so colour in around pond as am starting to enjoy planting in my garden and little one loves it so bonding time is always a big win win she better with a drill than me for making it Haha

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    Bullrushes, water iris, Gunera, Marsh Marigolds, have all of them in mine, Water Iris especially good, Marsh Marigold in planted in pea shingle.

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    In the spring & summer I use my pond water return to grow lettuce,spinach,kale & cabbage & Strawberries using clay pebbles in little plastic baskets designed for aqua phonics systems.The result is a generous supply of organic salad crop and a reduction in the nitrates,nitrites left in the water...win winimage.jpgimage.jpgi am currently setting up an aqua phonics system using 6" pipes with holes drilled out for the baskets & the roots use the nutrients from the free flowing water as it flows through each pipe section obviously is water level dependant adjusted by gate valve and an internal baffle to retain the water height without flowing out of the top holes.

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    I forgot to mention, I currently grow the plants in the pots floating on a raft of polystyrene which has holes cut out to hold the pots. Also floating on top of my bio chamber too

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    Could build a polycarb box over the top as a green house affect. You dont have any pictures of set up do you like the idea of that

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    Like the raft quick simple and cheap all sounds good to me and free salad

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    The raft system currently uses the base of a big animal cage that someone was throwing out but waterproof trays or planters can be bought from garden centres with a hose connection at the overflow level and trickle fed from my QT set up in the green house. Yogurt or creme fresh pots can be used by melting slots with a soldering iron as a recycled alternative allowing the roots to grow into the water
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Bass View Post
    The raft system currently uses the base of a big animal cage that someone was throwing out but waterproof trays or planters can be bought from garden centres with a hose connection at the overflow level and trickle fed from my QT set up in the green house. Yogurt or crime fresh pots can be used by melting slots with a soldering iron as a recycled alternative allowing the roots to grow into the water
    Cheers for the help and advice Mike the .more I think about it the more i like the idea and told the little one and she wants to grow more stuff to go with her tomatoes so she . What are the clay pebbles for Mike just more good feed for the plants ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Cheers for the help and advice Mike the .more I think about it the more i like the idea and told the little one and she wants to grow more stuff to go with her tomatoes so she . What are the clay pebbles for Mike just more good feed for the plants ?



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    The clay pebbles are inert and lightweight medium for the air and water to get through to the roots. you could use pea gravel but check the alkalinity first as there might be limestone clippings within the pebbles which could upset the water balance.




    you can grow tomatoes the same way too even by decanting the waste from the drum filter or using a bell syphon system. Next year I plan to use several ibc tanks cut in half to utilise the "waste water " in a flood flow added bio system to help get the full cycle of a natural pond




    I will post some more photos when I finish work
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    Cheers Mike much appreciated mate

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    No worries
    also it is worth noting that by covering the water completely with the raft or pebbles you are reducing the mosquitos from laying their larvae in the open water

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    image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg

    Photos showing the the floating raft systems on the bio system and QT sieve

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    Sounds like a good plan that,I like it.

    You off on your jollys today Johnathan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john1 View Post
    Sounds like a good plan that,I like it.

    You off on your jollys today Johnathan?
    Stop up airport tonight fly early doors tomorrow. You on yours yet ?? Its building in to a good little plan in my head cant beat the advice on here great people with great knowledge

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    Here are the photos of the work in progress for the aqua ponics system using a continuos flow. The plastic pots with melted openings which keep the strength of the pot better than using a knife. then inserted into the holes of the 6" pipe , recommended for strawberries which will hang over the side(I have loads waiting in the greenhouse ready to go in) If the roots don't reach the water in the beginning you use a piece of felt looped into the water to "wick" the nutrients up until roots have grown. The speed at which everything grows is much quicker in the aquaponics system than in soil.

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    Cheers Mike spot on that mate . Like the wick idea I'll keep that in mind . I take it then that polystyrene is harmless to pond life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajm View Post
    Cheers Mike spot on that mate . Like the wick idea I'll keep that in mind . I take it then that polystyrene is harmless to pond life

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    Just make sure that after drilling the holes all loose fragments are washed off,as the static electricity will tend to make any particles cling. You don't want the small beads entering the water and fish thinking they are pellets of food (although they are not daft and generally would spit them out) The same goes with cleaning the edges of holes cut in plastic pipe to ensure no fragments of plastic get washed into the system.

    Otherwise the polystyrene does not in my experience (and that of many aqua phonic farms around the world) affect the water.

    The baked clay beads can be obtained on line or from aquaponic supply shops.Some people use a coconut fibre mix instead of soil again this can be sourced from various sources

 

 

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